There are 15 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1a. Re: Digest Number 1468- Aquarian marching
From: Sat Avtar Kaur
2a. har har har har wahe guru sat nam HAR hari??????????
From: Ver Tips
2b. Re: har har har har wahe guru sat nam HAR hari??????????
From: ramneetfl
3a. Re: Gay marraige
From: Hannah Kent
3b. Re: Gay marraige
From: gurutej_k
4a. Re: Gurus Healing Ardas Sessions
From: balli
4b. Gurus Healing Ardas Sessions
From: Diane Warming
5a. Re: sudarshan kriya as taught by the Art of Living
From: keepup108
6. (no subject)
From: Mirelle van den Anker
7a. Radiant Child Yoga by Shakta Khalsa May 15-17, 2009 Omaha, NE
From: klenkkaren
8a. Seeking clarification on meditation for TREATING ADDICTIVE DISORDERS
From: Guruprem Kaur
8b. Seeking clarification on meditation for TREATING ADDICTIVE DISORDERS
From: Patrick
9a. Re: Kundalini Yoga and Yin Yoga
From: terrarium44
10. Guidelines/Parameters for homespun Sadhana Mantras
From: Miriam Friedland
11a. Radiant Child Yoga by Shakta Khalsa May 1, 2009 Wakefield, RI
From: klenkkaren
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1a. Re: Digest Number 1468- Aquarian marching
Posted by: "Sat Avtar Kaur" myralorey@yahoo.com myralorey
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:00 am ((PDT))
Sat Nam,
And, we are all Aquarian marching with our friends on the first page of the Kundalini Yoga Info Cntr:
http://www.kundaliniyogainfocntr.com/
when the group gets larger, we will have our own page, maybe even a Blog.
Blessings,
Sat Avtar and her cat Guru (a new name)
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2a. har har har har wahe guru sat nam HAR hari??????????
Posted by: "Ver Tips" ver_tips@yahoo.fr ver_tips
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:00 am ((PDT))
Sat Nam
on an old kundalini book I have read the following mantra helps for unconscious block concerning money:
har har har har wahe guru sat nam HA hari
The "Ha" seems to me strange.
The correct versione is not the following:
har har har har wahe guru sat nam HAR hari
Thanks for your answers.
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2b. Re: har har har har wahe guru sat nam HAR hari??????????
Posted by: "ramneetfl" ramneetfl@ymail.com ramneetfl
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:12 pm ((PDT))
I've heard that mantra- on a Ravi and Ana DVD. It must be a typo in your old book, and the r in har was dropped.
--- In Kundalini-Yoga@yahoogroups.com, Ver Tips <ver_tips@...> wrote:
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> har har har har wahe guru sat nam HAR hari
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3a. Re: Gay marraige
Posted by: "Hannah Kent" hannahakent@yahoo.com hannahakent
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:00 am ((PDT))
Hi all,
Finally got a new computer so I'm back into the conversation.
Thank you to all who have contributed to sharing in response to my post . . . Sunderta I would love to know the URL for the LBGT Kundalini yahoo group. . I certainly have more targeted questions and would love to see the conversations there.
I've been educating myself on Yogi Bhajan's views, among other things, via reading Women's Camp lectures. .. I've found so much of what he teaches to be so helpful and though I'm just not one to swallow things with out delving deeply while personally questioning as I need to along the way, I think neurosis and an unhealthy necessity to use sex as a SOLE means to attract people is important to question in our behavior and in this American culture.
I NEVER could see another perspective about modesty . . . I never understood a positive side to it (it had seemed controlling and repressed) until Kundalini yoga came into my life. . . and to be honest . . . I feel my inner being growing as I continue to meditate and digest my readings.
Today I was walking tall.. .literally walking around with the best posture I've had in a while due to some kind of an internal healing . . . and I certainly owe it at least in part to the dialogues I have with Yogi Bhajan every day :). . .though I began my Kundalini journey shortly after his passing. . . . his memory, videos, lectures etc certainly live on via you tube and text and of course the wonderful classes. . .
in searching this yahoo group with the phrase "gay marriage" I came across an old posting about a woman to whom Yogi Bhajan had knowingly married to a Gay man back in 1971. . .whoa. . that's a whole 'nother sack of beans for me. . .
So a few further questions.
1. Where does 3HO stand on the idea that men and women can/should be "healed" or "changed" from gay or lesbian to straight?
2. How does this relate to the global sikh communities view point?
3. How do you as a member of the American Sikh/Kundalini community feel either way?
I have been personally imagining myself, for the purpose of feeling it out, wearing full American Kundalini Sikh attire and committing fully to the American Sikh/Kunalini Teacher life style.
I have not been ABLE to do so as of yet and clearly am ambivalent
as to whether I would want to . . . which is where all these questions arise.
I have MUCH respect for the men and women I have met personally and read etc. who have taken on this commitment to a deeply spiritual life style.. .balancing the householder and the deeply divine existence. . .and part of me sees myself there. . .but before i even feel COMFORTABLE beginning to TEACH kundalini to a group of people in regular classes I need/want to know more.
It's about responsibility for me. My responsibility. And while if I take the obvious perspective that God is great and will guide me and is in control anyway. . . I could perhaps stop being so worried. . .but as I said. . I guess I'm not there yet and respect the POWER of Kundalini yoga too much to risk not being there for my students.
Sat Nam and blessings to you all,
Hannah
--- In Kundalini-Yoga@yahoogroups.com, "Sunderta Kaur" <grateful2day@...> wrote:
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> Hi Hannah,
> I am glad you raised this question of the 3HO stance on Gays. I wonder if anyone responded to it? I went through teacher training a few years ago and have immersed myself into the 3HO community. I took Sikh vows last summer at Summer Solstice and am considering taking Amrit, the full Sikh baptism. I wear bana and a turban in public and am living as a Sikh. I am also an out Lesbian and have been for 25 years. Did you know that there is a group of GLBT people associated with 3HO who have formed to support one another around questions such as yours? We are called the Rainbow Sangat and I can give you the information for our Yahoo group if you don't already have it.
>
> I have heard that Yogiji said a lot of different things about homosexuality. Some of it was positive and some of it negative. I don't know that Yogi Bhajan was clear, himself, on where he stood on homosexuality. I wonder if some of his cultural biases didn't influence his position. It appears to me that his ideas were evolving over time. Quite frankly, I just think he didn't quite know what to do with us. And I believe that he also knew that homosexuality was a problematic social issue that had the potential of being divisive but would ultimately become less and less of an issue. I choose to believe that he knew that homophobic beliefs would not be sustainable in The Aquarian Age and so he did not take a stand on homosexuality, but instead left it up to us to figure out. After all, many problems, when left alone, just fall away. So he left it up to the shifting consciousness of the Aquarian Age to take care of this issue and for us to figure out.
>
> As for the Humanology teachings, they are definitely very heterosexist. And I have found that the 3HO community in general is very heterosexist. At Solstice there is very much a "Don't ask, don't tell" feel unlike anything I have experienced before. The feeling of invisibility is stifling. But I managed to find other glbt people and have not tried to hide my sexuality in any way. In the innocence of many of the heterosexual members of the community, they are oblivious to this fact. Most people I have encountered honestly believe that it is a supportive community where everyone is welcome and they don't understand why anyone would feel insecure. Especially since they, themselves, don't have any issues personally with glbt people and like to think of themselves as supportive. For many of them, it is simply a non-issue. But for those of us coming in to such a community it can feel very unsafe, especially when we have a long history of being welcomed into communities that then try to change us or exile us. For what it's worth, I personally have not experienced any outward hostility, verbal or otherwise from anyone in 3HO or Sikh Dharma. And I think that is something these organizations should be proud of. There are some who have presented some ridiculously ignorant ideas. But you get that everywhere.
> One thing I will say about this community is that if you have issues that you are struggling with around your sexuality people are not likely to rush in to save you from such a gift. This is true about other issues you may be struggling with as well. This may be part of why the community can seem unwelcoming at first. People will sympathize, but they don't tend to interfere in your process. I think this is a good thing.
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> What I have come to with the Humanology teachings is that I take them for what they are worth, a heterosexual teacher, teaching to heterosexuals about heterosexuality. I love the teachings, but I don't look to them for any kind of approval or recognition of my existence or identity. It is such a primal thing to come to this community and technology with a longing to belong. I think everyone brings that with them. But as a lesbian I need to be realistic. Who is really qualified to teach me about being a Lesbian? The answer is other Lesbians. So I take our obvious omissions and the unanswered questions with a grain of salt.
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> One thing Yogi Bhajan was clear on is that to be a KY teacher or to be a Sikh it was up to the individual to initiate themselves. There's this way in which as glbt people we have learned to somehow ask for the permission of heterosexual people to be who we are. And then if we don't get that, we feel hurt, angry and abused. But in a way we set ourselves up for it. I am grateful that I get to initiate myself. Because it means that I don't have to ask anyone else's permission. I believe that my soul doesn't have a sexuality or a sexual orientation. And my sexual orientation is not WHO I truly am anyways. The course my soul charts is between me and God, and no one else can either give me permission or approval any more than they can stand in my way, although some people may certainly try.
>
> I hope this helps. I thought your questions deserved a response. And yet, I don't know that anyone really feels qualified to respond. It may be that there are no simple or blanket answers. Perhaps the answers need to be lived instead. I have tried to speak on behalf of myself and my experiences and not on behalf of anyone else or the communities in general. I hope what I have said is taken in that spirit.
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> Sat Nam,
> Sunderta Kaur
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> --- In Kundalini-Yoga@yahoogroups.com, Hannah <hannahakent@> wrote:
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> > Dear group -- I only have a phone as a computer right now so my editing abilities are limited and I initially sent this message from my other account... If you have a moment please scroll down ... To the next "dear group" ...
> >
> > Thank you ,
> >
> > Hannah
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear group,
> >
> > I agave gone through the KRI level 1 kundalini teacher training (in 2005), and find myself deeply drawn to not only the teachings of yogi bhajan, but also the sikh identity.
> >
> > However, what I have read so far and what I fear is that gays and lesbians are not understood or respected within the yogi bhajan world ... That it is explained as a previous life mixed up with the present etc. And basically invalidated as a genuine reality/identity..
> >
> > My question/statement/confusion is this ...
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> > While I agree that many people both gay and straight could learn from the modesty and grace of which yogi bhajan speaks ... I'm afraid he neglects to take in the complexities of biology ... What then is a transsex or dualy sexed person (one born with both sex parts)?
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> > And if god has created men with woman parts and women with man parts (to put it plainly) could She have created men with woman's brains woman's minds and so forth. In addition could not also our bodies be seen as less important than our true souls and our true soulmates?
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> > But i will step off my soap box ending with this final question.
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> > What is the 3ho stance on gay marraige, gay identity and gay rights?
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> > Could textual recommendations, lectures be suggested? To give me more targeted research?
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> > Thank you in advance for your time and thoughtful responses,
> >
> > Hannah
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3b. Re: Gay marraige
Posted by: "gurutej_k" ji@gurutej.com gurutej_k
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:12 pm ((PDT))
---Sat Nam
I just wanted to thank you Sundarta Kaur for giving me information I did not know about Gay and Lesbian support with in 3HO Thankn God.
This was not a welcoming climate for Gays/Lesbians for a longs time and yes Yogi Bhajan's stance was coming from a very homophobic country. His stance softened over the years. He alsways said there is the teacher and the man don't confus them.
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In Kundalini-Yoga@yahoogroups.com, "johniversen94702" <johniversen94702@...> wrote:
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> Sat Nam, Tho I've always thought civil unions should be a first step--this would not have allowed Karl Rove to outlaw gay marriages and civil unions in 20 plus states. No country in the world has adopted gay marriage without first adopting civil unions. That said I thni 3HO could take a lesson from the Unitarians and United Church of Christ and other local congregations of many faiths to be openly "welcoming and affirming" to all. And this means welcoming and affirming, not just tolerating. After all, who knows who in their next lifetime might be gay?
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> Peace to all, love to all, John Iversen (ram Das Singh)
> >
> > Thank you, Sunderta Kaur, for sharing your experiences and
> > observations so thoughtfully. My wish is that 3HO would make it
> > clear that all are welcome, regardless of race, sexual orientation,
> > religious affiliation, etc. This would help to alleviate some of the
> > questions that LGBT members and others may have about whether they
> > are truly welcome.
> > Simran
> >
> >
> > > Hi Hannah,
> > > I am glad you raised this question of the 3HO stance on Gays. I
> > > wonder if anyone responded to it? I went through teacher training a
> > > few years ago and have immersed myself into the 3HO community. I
> > > took Sikh vows last summer at Summer Solstice and am considering
> > > taking Amrit, the full Sikh baptism. I wear bana and a turban in
> > > public and am living as a Sikh. I am also an out Lesbian and have
> > > been for 25 years. Did you know that there is a group of GLBT
> > > people associated with 3HO who have formed to support one another
> > > around questions such as yours? We are called the Rainbow Sangat
> > > and I can give you the information for our Yahoo group if you don't
> > > already have it.
> > >
> > > I have heard that Yogiji said a lot of different things about
> > > homosexuality. Some of it was positive and some of it negative. I
> > > don't know that Yogi Bhajan was clear, himself, on where he stood
> > > on homosexuality. I wonder if some of his cultural biases didn't
> > > influence his position. It appears to me that his ideas were
> > > evolving over time. Quite frankly, I just think he didn't quite
> > > know what to do with us. And I believe that he also knew that
> > > homosexuality was a problematic social issue that had the potential
> > > of being divisive but would ultimately become less and less of an
> > > issue. I choose to believe that he knew that homophobic beliefs
> > > would not be sustainable in The Aquarian Age and so he did not take
> > > a stand on homosexuality, but instead left it up to us to figure
> > > out. After all, many problems, when left alone, just fall away. So
> > > he left it up to the shifting consciousness of the Aquarian Age to
> > > take care of this issue and for us to figure out.
> > >
> > > As for the Humanology teachings, they are definitely very
> > > heterosexist. And I have found that the 3HO community in general is
> > > very heterosexist. At Solstice there is very much a "Don't ask,
> > > don't tell" feel unlike anything I have experienced before. The
> > > feeling of invisibility is stifling. But I managed to find other
> > > glbt people and have not tried to hide my sexuality in any way. In
> > > the innocence of many of the heterosexual members of the community,
> > > they are oblivious to this fact. Most people I have encountered
> > > honestly believe that it is a supportive community where everyone
> > > is welcome and they don't understand why anyone would feel
> > > insecure. Especially since they, themselves, don't have any issues
> > > personally with glbt people and like to think of themselves as
> > > supportive. For many of them, it is simply a non-issue. But for
> > > those of us coming in to such a community it can feel very unsafe,
> > > especially when we have a long history of being welcomed into
> > > communities that then try to change us or exile us. For what it's
> > > worth, I personally have not experienced any outward hostility,
> > > verbal or otherwise from anyone in 3HO or Sikh Dharma. And I think
> > > that is something these organizations should be proud of. There are
> > > some who have presented some ridiculously ignorant ideas. But you
> > > get that everywhere.
> > > One thing I will say about this community is that if you have
> > > issues that you are struggling with around your sexuality people
> > > are not likely to rush in to save you from such a gift. This is
> > > true about other issues you may be struggling with as well. This
> > > may be part of why the community can seem unwelcoming at first.
> > > People will sympathize, but they don't tend to interfere in your
> > > process. I think this is a good thing.
> > >
> > > What I have come to with the Humanology teachings is that I take
> > > them for what they are worth, a heterosexual teacher, teaching to
> > > heterosexuals about heterosexuality. I love the teachings, but I
> > > don't look to them for any kind of approval or recognition of my
> > > existence or identity. It is such a primal thing to come to this
> > > community and technology with a longing to belong. I think everyone
> > > brings that with them. But as a lesbian I need to be realistic. Who
> > > is really qualified to teach me about being a Lesbian? The answer
> > > is other Lesbians. So I take our obvious omissions and the
> > > unanswered questions with a grain of salt.
> > >
> > > One thing Yogi Bhajan was clear on is that to be a KY teacher or to
> > > be a Sikh it was up to the individual to initiate themselves.
> > > There's this way in which as glbt people we have learned to somehow
> > > ask for the permission of heterosexual people to be who we are. And
> > > then if we don't get that, we feel hurt, angry and abused. But in a
> > > way we set ourselves up for it. I am grateful that I get to
> > > initiate myself. Because it means that I don't have to ask anyone
> > > else's permission. I believe that my soul doesn't have a sexuality
> > > or a sexual orientation. And my sexual orientation is not WHO I
> > > truly am anyways. The course my soul charts is between me and God,
> > > and no one else can either give me permission or approval any more
> > > than they can stand in my way, although some people may certainly try.
> > >
> > > I hope this helps. I thought your questions deserved a response.
> > > And yet, I don't know that anyone really feels qualified to
> > > respond. It may be that there are no simple or blanket answers.
> > > Perhaps the answers need to be lived instead. I have tried to speak
> > > on behalf of myself and my experiences and not on behalf of anyone
> > > else or the communities in general. I hope what I have said is
> > > taken in that spirit.
> > >
> > > Sat Nam,
> > > Sunderta Kaur
> >
>
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4a. Re: Gurus Healing Ardas Sessions
Posted by: "balli" khalliballi@yahoo.com khalliballi
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:01 am ((PDT))
Dear Guru Prem ji,
Thanks a lot for giving the meaning of Ardaas to the group. That is a great effort to guide people nearer to Akal Purukh.
I do have something to mention though that I think differently. First, it is 'pritham' and not 'pritam'. It may sound similar baut they are very different words. Pritham means 'pratham' (sanskrit) meaning first. The first line of ardaas is 'Pritham Bhagauti simar kai, Guru Nanak layi dhiyaye'. It means 'After FIRST remembering Bhagauti, I remember Guru Nanak.'
Secondly I do not believe that Bahagauti as mentioned by the author of this ardaas 'Guru Gobind Singh' is the primal female power. It is the name of Akal Purukh himself. And he is above the primal female power. Because Akal Purukh is the only power whom Guru Gobind Singh ji would remember before Guru Nanak himself.
I must say that this is my personal opinion based on my learnings from few learned people. There are several opinions but as long as they take you Akal Purukh himself they are all fine. I would love to hear more opinions on this.
Thanks for reading my words,
Baljinder
--- In Kundalini-Yoga@yahoogroups.com, "gurusbride" <guruprem@...> wrote:
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> Gurus' Healing Ardas is a precious interactive offering whereby I meditatively call upon the Primal Female Power--"Pritam Bhagawati," then the Sikh Gurus and Siri Guru Granth Sahib as in a Gurdwara Ardas or prayer. Only a Healing Ardas calls on the ten Gurus to address the specific needs of a person's ten bodies. Sessions may be in person, over the phone or provided as long distance healings.
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> I discovered this healing modality when praying for my daughter, Adi Shakti Kaur, after she received a severe head injury in a car accident back in 2004. Yogiji told me to send her all my energy but I was traumatized from an impending divorce, so I did the Ten Body Meditation, calling on the ten Gurus to send her their blessings. I chose to call upon Pritam Bhagawati to reinforce my daughter's spiritual identity because her name has the same meaning," and have been praying for my daughter and more recently the world everyday in this way for over five years, easily over 1,000 days, what it takes to master a technique. My daughter is completely healed. The Gurus continue blessing her destiny and healing the world.
>
> The yogic acumen to tune into Gurus and divine entities in the etheric realm also comes from doing the meditations Yogiji gave me to rebuild myself, including So Darshan Chakra Kriya daily and 31 minutes of Sat Kriya every day for six years ongoing, while calling on the Gurus to support my reach to pure Truth.
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> Gurus help and heal us in both intimately personal and vast cosmic ways, whatever the need may be. Their beautiful contributions are sensed as clear guidance and sublime healing.
>
> Sessions may be conducted in person or over the phone using my free Vonage line, where I call you on our agreed upon day and time.
>
> To contact me for a Healing Ardas, you may click on "Reply to Sender" at the bottom of this post.
>
> Donations from private sessions go toward producing, editing and publishing the book given to me by Siri Singh Sahibji, "Memoirs of a Yogini -- SGGS, Path of Life to Light." This book gives the deeper, yogic meaning of each author's writings in the holy Sikh Scriptures, Siri Guru Granth Sahib, as they pertain to contemporary life.
>
> Spiritual Entitiescalled upon in a Healing Ardas:
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> Pritam Bhagawati – the Primal Female Power
> She aligns people's energies with their true blueprint of grace and encourages, nurtures and challenges us to our purest destinies.
> Guru Nanak focuses on gifts of the Nam, of achieving oneness, union with God.
> Guru Angad guides one through blocks in one's path—not to be stopped by any façade. His darshan sees through all worldly veils directly to the Divine.
> Guru Amar Das, attuned to the Infinite, brings provisions, hope, honor and shelter in Infinite supply.
> Guru Ram Das is vast and numberless in his maneuvers. One never knows what to expect. He gives gifts of expansion that may appear at first as restrictions, gifts of healing through infinite modes and means.
> Guru Arjan is the divine embodiment of Sukhmani Sahib, the Pslam of Peace and vast physical feats of divine expression, such as the Golden Temple of Amritsar, compilation of the Siri Guru Granth Sahib and his total transcension of attachment to the human body on a hot plate before his death.
> Guru Hargobind's gifts and actions are humorous, surprisingly ingenious and self-awakening. He often brings the two swords of Miri and Piri into play—representations of worldly and spiritual sovereignty.
> Guru Har Rai gives insights into nature's inherent blessings on both a vast and minute scale.
> Guru Har Krishan gives fearlessness with power-filled lifeforce energy and a healing pranic flow, the life energy of breath.
> Guru Teg Bahadur coaxes us to surmount the crude and mundane to attain subtle realms of consciousness and dimensions of sublime understanding.
> Guru Gobind Rai describes personal battlefields, encouraging people to transcend victim consciousness and rout out inner and outer tyranny.
> Guru Gobind Singh elaborates on Guru Gobind Rai's scenario, giving it life, powerful meaning and resolution towards one's purity and excellence. He represents Guru Gobind Rai, his former self, in the most exalted consciousness.
> The Siri Guru Granth Sahib encompasses all Gurus' blessings, bestowing supreme awareness of one's life purpose.
>
> Some Healing Ardas Commentary:
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> Guru Prem Kaur,
> Thank you so much for your sharing and time. You have the most wonderful gift—the love of the Guru.
> Love,
> SK
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> Dear Guru Prem Kaur Ji –
> Thank you so much for the Healing Ardas you did with me last Saturday. It really helped to reframe many of the challenges, tests and yearnings of my life. It felt like a transformation at way speed of how I looked at all of these things. Now the Earth and I bless each other more often as I walk. I call on all the Gurus to wake me for sadhana and they do (even if it's only with four hours of sleep…but that too will change to the optimum amount of sleep to be healthy and do sadhana!) Bit-by-bit I'm integrating the gifts of the Gurus, Adi Shakti and SGGS.
> All Love in the Divine
> DNK
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> Satnam ji,
> Thank you for the ardas. It is real.
> I want to share this with you that since the day my son was born, everyday I used to meditate that he is sitting in the court of Guru Ramdas and Guru Ram Das picks him up and makes him sit in his lap. And in the Healing Ardas he was sitting in the Guru's court. Thank you. You are doing a great seva for the humanity. May the Guru always be in you and guide others.
> Many blessings,
> AS
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4b. Gurus Healing Ardas Sessions
Posted by: "Diane Warming" dwarmin1@maine.rr.com monkeysbrew
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:11 pm ((PDT))
This is a comment about the last letter of this posting concerning Guru Ram Das. When I was doing Sat Nam Rasayan for my husband who was dying, I often saw Guru Ram Das holding my husband in his lap. It is a wonderful peaceful, assuring feeling to know that Guru Ram Das is taking care of things. Sat Nam, Kartar Kaur, Portland, ME
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5a. Re: sudarshan kriya as taught by the Art of Living
Posted by: "keepup108" no_reply@yahoogroups.com keepup108
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:01 am ((PDT))
Apologies for a long delay in replying to your message. I had posted a message, but it seemed to disappear.
Sudarshan Chakra kriya as taught by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar is different from the Kundalini kriya as taught by Yogi Bhajan.
The kriya is a paced pranayama. The practitioner is seated in easy pose, or in a chair, or laying down. The breath is divided into 3 parts pattern.
It begins with very long & slow inhale and exhale. After several minutes, the breathing pattern takes a quicker pace, and after several more minutes, moves even more rapidly. (not quite to breath of fire pace) After a few minutes, the sequence reverses so that the kriya ends with the slow inhale and exhale. A two-word mantra is recited (via taped recording) by Sri Sri Ravi Shankar to pace the breath. The entire kriya last about 40 minutes. (I think...but don't rightly remember.)
The kriya is taught at the level one training course for Art Of Living. Art of Living offers a series of breath practices that are practiced at home. The sudarshan chakra kriya is practiced only within the course and with the course instructor. They do not provide the taped mantra for practicers to use at home.
I found the entire AOL experience to be wonderful. I love the pranayama sequence that AOL offers.
I hope this helps. I've experienced Level 1 Art of Living training, so I don't consider myself to be an expert. I went with a friend here in Cairo, as it has become a very popular spiritual course for many here. (but, I'm trying to change that with the Kundalini Yoga courses now being offered) If anyone else has other experiences, I hope they will correct any of my errors.
Dev Dharam Kaur
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Posted by: "Mirelle van den Anker" mirelle7@yahoo.com mirelle7
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:02 am ((PDT))
did you know Guru Nanak is also there...
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7a. Radiant Child Yoga by Shakta Khalsa May 15-17, 2009 Omaha, NE
Posted by: "klenkkaren" klenkco@verizon.net klenkkaren
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:11 pm ((PDT))
Radiant Child Yoga by Shakta Khalsa May 15-17, 2009 Omaha, NE
The Radiant Child Yoga program is offered by Shakta Kaur Khalsa. Shakta
has been practicing and teaching yoga for over three decades. She is an
IKYTA certified Kundalini Yoga instructor and teacher trainer, an AMS
certified Montessori educator, and an E-RYT 500 with Yoga Alliance.
This course will be offered on May 15-17, 2009 at the Omaha Yoga and
Bodywork Center in Omaha, NE. Click here to access the course flyer.
<http://www.childrensyoga.com/images/File/flyer1239678666radiant%20child\
.pdf>
Our 20-hour weekend training is for participants that have all levels of
yoga experience including beginners. The course includes:
• Guidelines for teaching children of all ages from babies
to teens
• Yoga songs and games that children love
• Time for sharing knowledge and networking with others
• Exploring a variety of meditation practices: using
breath, singing, movement, and silence.
• Brain-balancing yoga and Brain Gym skills
• Yoga in Motion movements, games, and dances that children
love
• Practical tips for keeping the class focused and engaged
• Breathing practices/meditation with children
• Using yoga sets with children
• Keeping yourself centered when working with children
• Powerful yoga and meditation for you as the teacher
• Time to collaborate with others to create a unique yoga
presentation
• Practical tools for any situation that arises when
working with children
• Setting up children's yoga business/classes
• Yoga for ADD, Autism, SPD
• Adapting yoga for schools
• Certificate of completion provided
This course has been recognized for CECs with public schools, therapy
organizations, and Yoga Alliance and is approximately 50% lecture and
50% practice- and is serious fun.
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8a. Seeking clarification on meditation for TREATING ADDICTIVE DISORDERS
Posted by: "Guruprem Kaur" guruprem@newmexico.com gurusbride
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:11 pm ((PDT))
Sat Nam,
RE David Singh Shannahoff Khalsa's explanations, there is a small
natural dip in the temples at about the level of the eyebrows. You find
it by feeling around with the thumbs.
RE locking the back molars together--the molars stay pressed together
while you alternate pressing harder between the left molars and then
harder between the right molars. This fluctuation vibrates the jaw when
done quickly.
Loving Blessings,
Guru Prem Kaur
http://www.yogagems.com
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8b. Seeking clarification on meditation for TREATING ADDICTIVE DISORDERS
Posted by: "Patrick" patrick@ybc40.com lachh1
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:13 pm ((PDT))
Sat Nam,
Regarding the placement of the thumbs: Just press the thumbs into the temple area. There's a slight notch there which you may or may not sense the first time. After some practice the meditation will guide you to the proper spot.
Regarding the teeth: The locking of the back molars serves to put a pressure at the temples where the thumbs are and that is the interplay of the mudra with the meditation. Just clench the molars together and keep the the teeth against one another as you alternately squeeze them togehter and release the pressure-- continue clenching and releasing and feel the pressure this creates with the thumbs at the temples.
Hope that helps.
Patrick Lacho
http://www.KundaliniYogaBootCamp.com
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9a. Re: Kundalini Yoga and Yin Yoga
Posted by: "terrarium44" terrarium44@yahoo.ca terrarium44
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:11 pm ((PDT))
Sat Nam,
No, the Yin Yoga DVD was referring to someone pulling their head back in a repetitive motion; at that point, Grilley said "if you do this often enough, you'll inevitably end up hurting yourself"; that immediately made me think of the repetitive nature of Kundalini Yoga; we don't really hold poses, like they do in Yin Yoga--KY is often made up of a simple pose repeated for a certain time. This is when I thought to myself if these repetitive postures, like cat-cow, would actually be good for us. From what I've read so far, this isn't the case.
I can't comment on your second addition, since I'm not knowledgeable enough (yet). LOL!
Blessings,
Nadh
--- In Kundalini-Yoga@yahoogroups.com, "filipstoj" <filipfilip@...> wrote:
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> Great explanations everyone.
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> My only addition is a couple things:
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> 1) When you get "tennis elbow" - is this the kind of repetitive joint-related injury that perhaps this DVD was alluding to?
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> Because I recall in a class just recently my teacher was telling me as we were doing an exercise... "This is good for preventing tennis elbow, too". Unfortunately, I forgot the exercise... But I think the general point is, that many of the postures and sets we do pinpoint areas and joints to improve flexibility and functionality, and if not done obsessively with fanaticism, it should not hurt them.
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> 2) Golf. Twisting of the spine. Extreme torques. All sorts of old dudes playing it. Seems like their spines are ok. Some spinal twists out on a nature walk, anyone?
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> Just my 2-Rupees...
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> -Fateh.
>
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10. Guidelines/Parameters for homespun Sadhana Mantras
Posted by: "Miriam Friedland" miriam_friedland@yahoo.com miriam_friedland
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:11 pm ((PDT))
Sat Nam all,A question came up yesterday morning at our Albuquerque community Sadhana:
What and where are the guidelines for composing our own musical renditions of the Aquarian Mantras? Respecting the power and precision of the Naad, we want to be sure we don't lose the 'magic' in the name of catchy tunes and phrasing.
Thanks for any and all responses.
Sumpuran Kaur
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11a. Radiant Child Yoga by Shakta Khalsa May 1, 2009 Wakefield, RI
Posted by: "klenkkaren" klenkco@verizon.net klenkkaren
Date: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:12 pm ((PDT))
Radiant Child Yoga by Shakta Khalsa May 1-3, 2009 Wakefield, RI
The Radiant Child Yoga program is offered by Shakta Kaur Khalsa. Shakta
has been practicing and teaching yoga for over three decades. She is an
IKYTA certified Kundalini Yoga instructor and teacher trainer, an AMS
certified Montessori educator, and an E-RYT 500 with Yoga Alliance.
This course will be offered on May 1-3, 2009 at the All That Matters in
Wakefield, RI. Click here to access the course flyer.
<http://www.childrensyoga.com/images/File/flyer1233457595.pdf>
Our 20-hour weekend training is for participants that have all levels of
yoga experience including beginners. The course includes:
• Guidelines for teaching children of all ages from babies
to teens
• Yoga songs and games that children love
• Time for sharing knowledge and networking with others
• Exploring a variety of meditation practices: using
breath, singing, movement, and silence.
• Brain-balancing yoga and Brain Gym skills
• Yoga in Motion movements, games, and dances that children
love
• Practical tips for keeping the class focused and engaged
• Breathing practices/meditation with children
• Using yoga sets with children
• Keeping yourself centered when working with children
• Powerful yoga and meditation for you as the teacher
• Time to collaborate with others to create a unique yoga
presentation
• Practical tools for any situation that arises when
working with children
• Setting up children's yoga business/classes
• Yoga for ADD, Autism, SPD
• Adapting yoga for schools
• Certificate of completion provided
This course has been recognized for CECs with public schools, therapy
organizations, and Yoga Alliance and is approximately 50% lecture and
50% practice- and is serious fun.
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